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  Another Newbie

  by Skinnedsheep in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently came to the realization that the organization is corrupt and is false.

  my story is similar to many i think.

  i was raised in the religion, pioneered and served as an elder for a number of years.

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  Nathan Natas

  Hi SkinnedSheep!

  Did you know about the UN scandal? If so, what were your reactions and thoughts about it?

  Some additional reading, if you don't mind:

  Visions of Glory by Barbara G. Harrison (out of print)

  Captives of a Concept by Don Cameron (available at http://captivesofaconcept.com/index_for_site_all.html or AMAZON.COM)

  A People For His Name: A History of Jehovah's Witnesses and An Evaluation by Tony Wills (aka Tim White), available from AMAZON.Com

  The Desolations of the Sanctuary by Emil & Otto Sadlack, available from AMAZON.COM

  Best wishes to you!
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  Looking for a certain Watchtower Magazine

  by truthlover1991 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i don't know if this is the right place to put this topic, so feel free to correct me.

  i'm looking for the watchtower magazine (in any format, pdf, scan, etc) from april 1st, 1979. the one which talks about how jesus is not the mediator for all mankind.

  i know it might be an elusive magazine to get ahold of, but if any of you reading this have a vast watchtower magazine library, would you consider helping out a fellow?

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  Nathan Natas

  Have you checked your local laundromat?
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  next big thing: punch card for the Big A?

  by chickpea in

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  Nathan Natas

  Excellent!
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  How a parasite justifies his existence

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. social
  2. current

  catholic church's top exorcist claims he rid world of 160,000 demons.

  read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/catholic-churchs-top-exorcist-claims-he-rid-world-of-160000-demons-96794/#65iwkhvqfbzv6zf8.99 .

  i'm an - that's right - atheist.

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  Nathan Natas

  Catholic Church's Top Exorcist Claims He Rid World of 160,000 Demons

  Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/catholic-churchs-top-exorcist-claims-he-rid-world-of-160000-demons-96794/#65iwkhvQFBZV6ZF8.99

  I'm an - that's right - atheist.

  This impostor knows his "flock" love being fleeced.
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  Do Animals Have Souls?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know most jehovah's witnesses believe in the soul sleeping doctrine.

  by this, given that neither man nor beast has a spirit, but that they do possess souls (or "intelligences" unique to themselves).

  where this intelligence resides between death and resurrection is more than a passing interest, but again, assuming that yehweh can recreate one's distict soul, does the society believe that animals have souls?

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  Nathan Natas

  I'm an atheist so I'll accept your kind invitation.

  There is no spirit realm inhabited by any kind of creature.

  There are no souls, angels,demons or gods.

  There will be no resurrection.

  This life you have right now is the only shot you'll ever have.

  This is not a rehearsal for something else.

  You're welcome.
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  Supernatural Or Coincidence? YOU Decide.

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay, this is pretty weird.

  is it really supernatural?

  or is it just my imagination?.

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  Nathan Natas

  There is no "supernatural," so your vivid imagination wins by default.

  I saw nothing in either picture.
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  Can you help me encourage Reopened mind.

  by TotallyADD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as most of you know we got a very angry letter from our oldest son.

  it hurt her very much.

  i feel so bad for her because he attacked her for what i feel was very unfair.

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  Nathan Natas

  The way I understand it, Reopened mind & Totally ADD are an XJW married couple.

  I'm not quite clear about whether the son is JW or XJW because there seems to be some shunning of the son toward his parents.

  Did I misunderstand something?
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  Can you help me encourage Reopened mind.

  by TotallyADD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as most of you know we got a very angry letter from our oldest son.

  it hurt her very much.

  i feel so bad for her because he attacked her for what i feel was very unfair.

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  Nathan Natas

  The LETTER: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/252055/1/Got-a-angry-letter-from-our-oldest-son-today-we-are-very-hurt-from-it
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  Can you help me encourage Reopened mind.

  by TotallyADD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as most of you know we got a very angry letter from our oldest son.

  it hurt her very much.

  i feel so bad for her because he attacked her for what i feel was very unfair.

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  Nathan Natas

  Everyone - JW or not - is required by nature to make decisions on the basis of incomplete information, and we are 100% responsible for the decisions we make.

  It doesn't seem fair. But since the rule applies to everybody, maybe it is.

  Or maybe the guilt is meaningless. Maybe the idea of being 100% responsible for anything - good or bad - is an illusion.

  I have a LOT of anger about the circumstances of my life. My parents were a couple of idiots who stumbled from one bad impulsive act to another.

  When I really try to put myself in their places it seems almost like their bad choices were unavoidable, and I am only left with pity for both of them.
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  Maybe I am a little dense, but I just realized...

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wtbts teaches that, " the soul that is sinning..will die.

  " this was re-hashed in the what is truth talk at the dc.

  so i got to thinking about the wtbts's doctrine.

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  Nathan Natas

  Doesn't the WT argue that Sheol is a literal place?

  WHAT resides in this literal place?

  Does it have a (postal) zip code? Space-Time coordinates?